The third big war is upon EVE. In Delve CFC+Honeybadger will fight Southern Coalition. Considering that they are the only powerblocks in EVE, the war has the chance to be the final. The winner may won EVE, game over.
I will miss it. I don't have a pilot who can contribute and I don't belong to either of the blocks. Of course it shouldn't stop me from contributing. I could send like 50B to one of the armies. Sure, it wouldn't be a game-breaking advantage where 100B titans fly in dozens, but it would be more contribution than provided by F1-spammer-in-BC#5487. My problem emerged when I wanted to pick a recipient for my donation. I know nothing about the two fighting forces. Actually if they would both give me an invitation to join them, I couldn't choose.
There are three kinds of wars in real world. One is ideological: the sides want to enforce their way of living on the other or protect their own from it. For example in the Vietnam war the question was if Vietnam will be communist or capitalist. Everyone has a clear preference which system they want to live in. He is fighting for his choice. The war matters to the individual guy. If the enemy wins, his personal life will be strongly affected.
Obviously EVE is not real life and no one expects sides to form based on the big questions of life. However there are different ways of life in EVE and people do fight for it. One was very well described by Jester: Syndicate is populated by small, independent groups that fight each other, while the invading FA came with the idea of changing the zone their way: held by them and allies. Should they win, the Syndicate dwellers were forced into blue status or out, giving up their ability to find PvP nearby. They fought for their way of life, thats why they dared to engage a supercapital with 100 friendlies in the system. Such attack could very easily end in fleet annihilation, yet they pressed on as living in a "boring blue" region was unacceptable for them. Other possible "philosophical" wars that could shape the way of living in a region:
Again, EVE is not real life, but many "decided before birth" characteristics exist. I mean you are speaking Russian or you are not. You are member of Something Awful or Reddit or you are not. While some of these characteristics can be changed, it's irrational to think that someone will learn Russian just to play a video game. Such wars aren't that rare: the recent Burn Jita was a typical "only the dead Indian is a good Indian" campaign by the Goons against the highsec native "pubbies".
Now the question is "Does the war in Delve fit into these categories?". Are the warring parties different in way of life? If so, they are hiding it very well. From the countless news it seems that both are very diverse and accept very different people. Just think that TEST that field Retreivers for lols is together with the most hardcore pure-PvP PL.
The sides are also diverse in every possible RL way. Sure, some corps and alliances have strict out-of-game selection, you can hardly be Goon without being an SA poster, and you can hardly be in Hun Reloaded without speaking Hungarian. However the both sides include hundreds of different corporations, and I find it totally impossible for anyone to be unable to join either side because of out-of-game reasons. You can be rejected by this or that corp, but you surely find a corp both in SoCo and Honey-CFC that takes you.
These mean that the life of an individual pilot isn't really affected by the outcome of the war, even if the war ends with total victory for one side. He can keep on living in null, do the same things that he used to do, simply in a different corp. Let's imagine SoCo ends up a highsec miner alliance, just as Evemonkey predicted. What will happen to the inhabitants? His own history is the answer: he used to be in -A- and now in the CFC-Honeybadger block. The "just have fun" pilots of -A- will find a place in TEST for example, while those with great killboards will get in PL. The renters will pay their money to CFC-Honey, everyone will find a new place. Some will have to move a few systems away and change corps but the end of the day he'll be living the same life.
The third kind of real world wars are exactly this: the warring sides differ only in their leaders. The aim of the war is to make leaders more powerful. The little guys are not affected besides having to replace flags and send their tax to the new overlord. Typical examples are warlord battles of Africa, the warring kingdoms of Germany before Bismark, the shogunate wars in Japan.
I believe this war in Delve will shape nothing therefore will decide nothing besides the glory or fall of The Mittani and other prominent figures. I miss on nothing but PvP experience, repair bill and awesome screenshots. EVE won't be won in Delve. The differences that exist will exist. No questions will be answered. Only some alliance and corp leaders lose their status and some get even more. That's the best case scenario. There is chance that after some brawls everyone go home.
Of course I can be wrong. Maybe there is huge cultural or out-of-game differences between the powerblocks. If you can point to a personality/background that makes one say "if our side loses I must leave null as the other side would not take me", please comment.
PS: have you ever wondered if the Jita scammers have any victims? I mean they are spamming really lame scams. Right click their name, show info, check the list of their public contracts:
Tuesday morning report: 80.7B (1.5B spent on main accounts, 1.3 spent on logi, 1.0 on Ragnarok, 0.5 on Rorqual, 0.9 on Nyx, 0.8 on Avatar, 2.6B received as gift).
I will miss it. I don't have a pilot who can contribute and I don't belong to either of the blocks. Of course it shouldn't stop me from contributing. I could send like 50B to one of the armies. Sure, it wouldn't be a game-breaking advantage where 100B titans fly in dozens, but it would be more contribution than provided by F1-spammer-in-BC#5487. My problem emerged when I wanted to pick a recipient for my donation. I know nothing about the two fighting forces. Actually if they would both give me an invitation to join them, I couldn't choose.
There are three kinds of wars in real world. One is ideological: the sides want to enforce their way of living on the other or protect their own from it. For example in the Vietnam war the question was if Vietnam will be communist or capitalist. Everyone has a clear preference which system they want to live in. He is fighting for his choice. The war matters to the individual guy. If the enemy wins, his personal life will be strongly affected.
Obviously EVE is not real life and no one expects sides to form based on the big questions of life. However there are different ways of life in EVE and people do fight for it. One was very well described by Jester: Syndicate is populated by small, independent groups that fight each other, while the invading FA came with the idea of changing the zone their way: held by them and allies. Should they win, the Syndicate dwellers were forced into blue status or out, giving up their ability to find PvP nearby. They fought for their way of life, thats why they dared to engage a supercapital with 100 friendlies in the system. Such attack could very easily end in fleet annihilation, yet they pressed on as living in a "boring blue" region was unacceptable for them. Other possible "philosophical" wars that could shape the way of living in a region:
- "Kill them all" group vs "Not red do not shoot" group
- "Roaming PvP-ers" vs "alliance that want the zone for safe PvE"
- "Elite PvP" vs "F1-blop" groups
- "Must have 30M SP before leaving highsec" vs "fly a tackling rifter on day 1"
Again, EVE is not real life, but many "decided before birth" characteristics exist. I mean you are speaking Russian or you are not. You are member of Something Awful or Reddit or you are not. While some of these characteristics can be changed, it's irrational to think that someone will learn Russian just to play a video game. Such wars aren't that rare: the recent Burn Jita was a typical "only the dead Indian is a good Indian" campaign by the Goons against the highsec native "pubbies".
Now the question is "Does the war in Delve fit into these categories?". Are the warring parties different in way of life? If so, they are hiding it very well. From the countless news it seems that both are very diverse and accept very different people. Just think that TEST that field Retreivers for lols is together with the most hardcore pure-PvP PL.
The sides are also diverse in every possible RL way. Sure, some corps and alliances have strict out-of-game selection, you can hardly be Goon without being an SA poster, and you can hardly be in Hun Reloaded without speaking Hungarian. However the both sides include hundreds of different corporations, and I find it totally impossible for anyone to be unable to join either side because of out-of-game reasons. You can be rejected by this or that corp, but you surely find a corp both in SoCo and Honey-CFC that takes you.
These mean that the life of an individual pilot isn't really affected by the outcome of the war, even if the war ends with total victory for one side. He can keep on living in null, do the same things that he used to do, simply in a different corp. Let's imagine SoCo ends up a highsec miner alliance, just as Evemonkey predicted. What will happen to the inhabitants? His own history is the answer: he used to be in -A- and now in the CFC-Honeybadger block. The "just have fun" pilots of -A- will find a place in TEST for example, while those with great killboards will get in PL. The renters will pay their money to CFC-Honey, everyone will find a new place. Some will have to move a few systems away and change corps but the end of the day he'll be living the same life.
The third kind of real world wars are exactly this: the warring sides differ only in their leaders. The aim of the war is to make leaders more powerful. The little guys are not affected besides having to replace flags and send their tax to the new overlord. Typical examples are warlord battles of Africa, the warring kingdoms of Germany before Bismark, the shogunate wars in Japan.
I believe this war in Delve will shape nothing therefore will decide nothing besides the glory or fall of The Mittani and other prominent figures. I miss on nothing but PvP experience, repair bill and awesome screenshots. EVE won't be won in Delve. The differences that exist will exist. No questions will be answered. Only some alliance and corp leaders lose their status and some get even more. That's the best case scenario. There is chance that after some brawls everyone go home.
Of course I can be wrong. Maybe there is huge cultural or out-of-game differences between the powerblocks. If you can point to a personality/background that makes one say "if our side loses I must leave null as the other side would not take me", please comment.
PS: have you ever wondered if the Jita scammers have any victims? I mean they are spamming really lame scams. Right click their name, show info, check the list of their public contracts:
Tuesday morning report: 80.7B (1.5B spent on main accounts, 1.3 spent on logi, 1.0 on Ragnarok, 0.5 on Rorqual, 0.9 on Nyx, 0.8 on Avatar, 2.6B received as gift).
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