You might heard that a player has modified the Wiki to appear as the alt of Chribba, a respected third-party escrow service provider and then scammed almost half trillion ISK from players wanting to trade their supercapitals trough him (actually trough Chribba). He was banned of course and his scams reversed. It also made CCP to clarify their rules about impersonation.
However the point of the article isn’t the scam itself, it’s the problematic system of using third-party transaction services. The third party gets both the ship and the money and then give them to the clients. Or not, as the infamous The Mittani supercap escrow service did.
But what else can we do? – you might ask. CCP did not provide a secure interface for trading supercapitals or POS-es, someone has to transfer first. Instead of trusting in a total stranger, I’d rather trust Chribba!
The logic above is wrong because both supercapitals and valuable (typically moon) POS-es are alliance-related assets. I mean you have absolutely no use to a titan or a supercarrier if you aren’t in a serious alliance. Look, even I don’t have a titan, despite clearly could afford several. What the hell would I do with it?
Supers don’t just fall out of the sky, they can only be built in special structures that need Sovereignty in the system and lot of time for building. So they can’t really be ninja-built. Therefore a supercapital both in birth and in usage is bound to an alliance. This allows a very safe way of trading them: trough alliance diplomats. Diplomats don’t scam because such act would make the alliance itself look untrustable, making them unable to make treaties. So the proper way to get a titan is finding one in the alliance first, then on the open market and then make a trade through the diplomats. I’m sure they’d gladly help to get one more titan pilot on the buyer side, and they would love to support alliance production – assuming the alliance get its cut.
How could people without an alliance backing them trying to buy titans? Because they are dumb. They just want a huge status symbol that they won’t really use. They’ll have it logged off, only to log it in when their neut-scout confirms the emptiness of the system to update the skill queue and to make screenshots to show off. While the scammer of the story deserved to be banned for messing with the Wiki, the scammed buyers also deserved to lose their ships because they wanted something that wasn’t only out of their league, but totally not needed in their league. If you don’t have a capital blob to join, you don’t need a super at all.
If you are in an alliance that neither has the capacity to build supers, nor any serious alliance negotiate with them the sell of supers, you are in the same position: you don't need a super. Use a dreadnought to grind down structures, those can dock, can be built in lowsec and when you lose it, it cost 1.5B if insured instead of 25B!
Every day something good happens with the miners:
As you can see, everyone except my scout is in a Procurer.
However the point of the article isn’t the scam itself, it’s the problematic system of using third-party transaction services. The third party gets both the ship and the money and then give them to the clients. Or not, as the infamous The Mittani supercap escrow service did.
But what else can we do? – you might ask. CCP did not provide a secure interface for trading supercapitals or POS-es, someone has to transfer first. Instead of trusting in a total stranger, I’d rather trust Chribba!
The logic above is wrong because both supercapitals and valuable (typically moon) POS-es are alliance-related assets. I mean you have absolutely no use to a titan or a supercarrier if you aren’t in a serious alliance. Look, even I don’t have a titan, despite clearly could afford several. What the hell would I do with it?
Supers don’t just fall out of the sky, they can only be built in special structures that need Sovereignty in the system and lot of time for building. So they can’t really be ninja-built. Therefore a supercapital both in birth and in usage is bound to an alliance. This allows a very safe way of trading them: trough alliance diplomats. Diplomats don’t scam because such act would make the alliance itself look untrustable, making them unable to make treaties. So the proper way to get a titan is finding one in the alliance first, then on the open market and then make a trade through the diplomats. I’m sure they’d gladly help to get one more titan pilot on the buyer side, and they would love to support alliance production – assuming the alliance get its cut.
How could people without an alliance backing them trying to buy titans? Because they are dumb. They just want a huge status symbol that they won’t really use. They’ll have it logged off, only to log it in when their neut-scout confirms the emptiness of the system to update the skill queue and to make screenshots to show off. While the scammer of the story deserved to be banned for messing with the Wiki, the scammed buyers also deserved to lose their ships because they wanted something that wasn’t only out of their league, but totally not needed in their league. If you don’t have a capital blob to join, you don’t need a super at all.
If you are in an alliance that neither has the capacity to build supers, nor any serious alliance negotiate with them the sell of supers, you are in the same position: you don't need a super. Use a dreadnought to grind down structures, those can dock, can be built in lowsec and when you lose it, it cost 1.5B if insured instead of 25B!
Every day something good happens with the miners:

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