6VDT-H: July 28, 20:30 EVE Time. When all records were broken.
4050 in local, 1400 from the alliance. At the start we had only TRIBE on our side with 400!!! pilots. No other EVE battle was this big. No other alliance ever fielded so many people. GSF, the alliance fielded only half, but with pets, 2600.
Karan, our staging system got 10% TiDi just from us getting to titans.
Landing on grid. The overview just show logis.
I have a pod overview, looking at it gives a good approximation of the battle. It was losing for TEST from the start.
CFC bridged in fleets before us, which proved to be critical towards the outcome. We stood down from forming slowcats and the drop of dreads was canceled too. After my client died 6 times, I abandoned my original plan to drop a dread no matter what and went in with a simple logi. Bridging in took ages, CCP was clearly not prepared for this magnitude.
Surprisingly reps held for a while, but everything was terribly slow. Then I realized that I'm probably just repping people from bomb damages and mistaken fires, primary targets died before lock (10 mins in real time). The TiDi and lag was extreme. How did the battle end for me? I got jammed (next to the 11 damps) and noticed that my aggression timer is off (probably calculates timers badly because the 20 seconds jam was just halfway). So I figured out a "genius" idea to dock to clear damps and jams and undock. Docking took 23 minutes and couldn't cancel it. Undock? Didn't happen. So unlike most TESTies, I failed to end in a wreck.
What can I tell about the outcome? CFC clearly won Fountain. But TEST didn't just do an "OK" last stand, but broke all records. I don't think "failcascade" will be mentioned. We will retreat to Delve and will either hold it alone, or leave it as the most battle-hardened, compentent and motivated group. A single alliance fielding 1400 people isn't going to fade away.
The most annoying thing: NC. and some of our forces couldn't bridge in because of system cap. CCP wasn't prepared that more than 4K pilots want in. If we'd bridge in first, we could have locked out several Goon fleets, engaging 1:1 at the station. Next time CCP will figure out some solution to handle battles in the age of coalitions.
Finally, the most important aspect of the battle: the losses of us and our allies are about 100B.
The value of the time of 1700 pilots for 4 hours with 50M/hour ratting income: 340B
I doubt anyone bothers about that "lost time". And if we don't bother for 340B, we shouldn't bother about 100. If everyone involved spends 1/4 time making ISK, it's already replaced. What I wrote when the donation board came up still stands: "TEST can no longer bankrupt. Moons can be taken, members not. As long as there are members log in, there will be ISK in the chest, therefore there will be SRP."
Update: seems we won the ISK battle.
Surprisingly reps held for a while, but everything was terribly slow. Then I realized that I'm probably just repping people from bomb damages and mistaken fires, primary targets died before lock (10 mins in real time). The TiDi and lag was extreme. How did the battle end for me? I got jammed (next to the 11 damps) and noticed that my aggression timer is off (probably calculates timers badly because the 20 seconds jam was just halfway). So I figured out a "genius" idea to dock to clear damps and jams and undock. Docking took 23 minutes and couldn't cancel it. Undock? Didn't happen. So unlike most TESTies, I failed to end in a wreck.
What can I tell about the outcome? CFC clearly won Fountain. But TEST didn't just do an "OK" last stand, but broke all records. I don't think "failcascade" will be mentioned. We will retreat to Delve and will either hold it alone, or leave it as the most battle-hardened, compentent and motivated group. A single alliance fielding 1400 people isn't going to fade away.
The most annoying thing: NC. and some of our forces couldn't bridge in because of system cap. CCP wasn't prepared that more than 4K pilots want in. If we'd bridge in first, we could have locked out several Goon fleets, engaging 1:1 at the station. Next time CCP will figure out some solution to handle battles in the age of coalitions.
Finally, the most important aspect of the battle: the losses of us and our allies are about 100B.
The value of the time of 1700 pilots for 4 hours with 50M/hour ratting income: 340B
I doubt anyone bothers about that "lost time". And if we don't bother for 340B, we shouldn't bother about 100. If everyone involved spends 1/4 time making ISK, it's already replaced. What I wrote when the donation board came up still stands: "TEST can no longer bankrupt. Moons can be taken, members not. As long as there are members log in, there will be ISK in the chest, therefore there will be SRP."
Update: seems we won the ISK battle.
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