Dead morons of the week

Back to the unique selling point of EVE: the morons here don't walk away lolling from their failure but with a loss that can cost $1000 to replace if one chooses to buy ISK via buying PLEX. Every listed moron here is over $150 loss.

• 7B Moros. Besides his pricetag what really makes him moron is that there was a friendly carrier so he could refit from tracking to tank+DPS. Also his rigs are just bad.
• Shuttle with 18 PLEX in Jita.
• 35M (about $1000) Aeon supercarrier. It belonged to TEST alliance, so did its killers. Spying with bad.
• Why did this carrier hauled 5B cargo in (bad) ratting fit? Or why did he rat with cargo? Questions, question...
• Same thing, this time with 4B cargo
• 1, 2, 3 Fatal Ascension supercarriers ($1000 each) in lowsec. Away from home. Near PL. Whoring on killmails.
• Hey, one more supercarrier in lowsec.
Hint: lowsec is not your sov, anyone can show up. Pandemic Legion is infamous of being "anyone".
• Wardecced JF in highsec.
• Another wardecced JF in highsec.
• Yet another wardecced JF in highsec.
• Losing a JF in lowsec isn't necessarily stupid. Losing it in a system that isn't neighboring continuous highsec on the other hand is quite stupid.
• Someone tried to copy MasL's failure. Bad idea for 7.5B.
• How to lose 74B ($2000) by being stupid? Instead of logging off your titan, try to place it into a small tower shield. Since it did not fit in, it was bumped and killed.
• You rarely see Rorquals out in the belt. Especially not in lowsec. With horrible fit.

Thanks for all the fish morons, see you next week! I'm sure you won't fail me to provide yet another collection of proof of your idiotism.

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Why was I ganked while mining?

Dear miner,

You got here probably by a link you received in an EVE-mail from one of your gankers. You probably got a link to some kind of a code that you stopped reading after the first paragraph or, even if you finished, you rejected as "roleplaying blackmail". But luckily you are here so you aren't lost to the New Order yet. (Actually no one is as there is always a next letter after the next gank). So the letter promised economic reasoning behind the New Order. Behold!

You probably agree that bots are bad. Bots are cheat programs that allow you to gain game currency without player action. While a bot is usually dumb and can't make more than 10-15M/hour mining or 30-40M/hour missioning, let it run for 8 hours a day, 20 days a month, and you are looking for 1.5-2.5B/month from mining and 5-6B/month from missioning without doing anything. Bots devalue the effort of legitimate players, making the non-botters poor. We at the New Order decided to not suffer this and kill the bots.

- But I did not bot!
- I believe you, this is why you got the mail. No point sending mails to bots, they aren't really talkative. However, you did something that the Code define as "Bot-aspirant behavior": being AFK, mining for a long time. You might think that getting ice while watching TV is OK. But think about any game, League of Legends, World of Tanks or World of Warcraft battlegrounds where you get some points for playing. Are you happy when you have an AFK-leech on the team who just clicks every 5 minutes with a macro or manually while watching TV and get honor/experience/IP/whatever while making his teammates lose? If you are AFK-ice mining, you are that guy. You are obtaining ISK. There is no victimless crime! The money of the ice buyers is divided among the miners. If you get ISK AFK, those who are not AFK get less. The newbie giving up playing since his Retreiver can't mine enough to pay for a Mackinaw despite he mines hard? Your fault! If you are an AFK-miner, you are part of the problem.

- But mining is booooring! Do you really expect me to watch the ice cycle?
- Mining is not boring. Watching the cycle is indeed boring, but the cycle is just part of the mining process. The official game guide says that mining is a group activity. Did you mine in a group? No, being in some corp and mining alone isn't that. Did you mine together with fellow miners? It's profitable! The Orca boost can increase your yield significantly. Having a hauler in the group saves you from warping in and out to station. Having a refiner who has perfect skills and standings can completely remove the cost of refining. Having a dedicated trader can get you much better prices in the hubs. Having an ECM escort ship would allow you to safely mine in 0.5 systems. Hell, you could go wild sometimes and get to lowsec with a Venture gang and hit gas! You could make much more money while having fun with fellow players. It would be welcoming to newbies too, there would be mining gangs he could join. There are dozens of other miners in the very belt where you are. You could could cooperate with them ... if only they weren't AFK.

- But I can't do anything about them being AFK!
- Wrong! You experienced first hand that AFK makes no one immune from bumping or suicide ganking. The AFK miners and bots can be stopped! The New Order is full of volunteers who dedicate their time to clean the bots and AFK-ers. It's happening right in front of your eyes. I'm not telling you to go out and stand alone against the legion of bots like James 315 did at the beginning. I'm telling you to join a successful movement that cleaned whole ice belts of bots and AFK leeches!

- Where would you find enough people for breaking the bots?
- We found you! You are a miner, you are the perfect man for the job. You are already at the belt mining, it doesn't take much for you to keep your eyes open, try to talk with the other miners and if they are bots, dock and come back in a bumping ship. Or when there are gankers around, dock, relog to a 10 days old Catalyst alt and get rid of that bot. Instead of watching them taking away the ice from you, you could watch them explode! You could be a fearsome Dark Knight who strike down evil instead of a "carebear pubbie"!

- You can kill them in thousands and they'll just keep coming back!
- Wrong again: botting is not a "for fun" activity. It's true that no matter how many times I kill a lowsec pirate he won't stop reshipping and fighting. Similarly, if you kill a supercarrier, the pilot will not rest until he gets another one. But bots are motivated by profit. If you cause them more damage than the botting profit, he'll stop. Actually, you just have to cause them enough damage to make mission-botting more profitable and he moves to that. Or rents nullsec space and mines Arkanor which won't cut into your profit.

- CCP would stop them botting if they wanted to. CCP tolerates botting.
- Not true! CCP even have an anti-bot group and they have successfully driven off most RMT botters. They have a hard time with individual botters who run just a bot for themselves, don't spam ISK and actually play on their account, not just 24/7 bot. CCP needs hard evidence, letting 10 bots running is better than banning one legitimate player, which is a PR nightmare. We can do what CCP can't: come down on bot-aspirant behavior, just like we ganked you for AFK mining!

- Why do the Code demands me to pay 10M for "permit"? It's extortion!
- You think Catalysts are for free? Or that we pee Antimatter? 10M is a small donation for the cause. I myself donated 2B and I'm not even a miner. If you can't afford 10M, guess why? Because the bots took your profit! In this case mine ore in a Venture until you can afford, or run missions. Missions increase your standing with an NPC corporation, allowing you to get better reprocessing quota.

- Why do I need to put "I support the New Order! www.minerbumping.com" to my Bio?
The support line in your bio is an advertisement for the New Order. Botting can only stop if it becomes socially unacceptable. If being a botter will be a shame and botters can't find corps and fleets even if CCP fails to catch them. If corpmates report and awox botters. The more people support the New Order, the less social recognition will the botters get. That line in your Bio makes botters pariahs! Also, how could other Code-following miners find you to form Orca-boosted gangs with?

- How can I join?
- One of the great features of the New Order is the low bureaucracy. While there are ganker corps, you can be in any corp, even NPC. Each Knight pays for his own ship and signs up for fleets when he wants. Agents (bumpers) act totally individually. To be an agent you have to do nothing but change your Bio to announce your support and start bumping. To be a Knight (ganker), you should come to the current HQ in a gank-fit Catalyst (you can buy one in the HQ usually) and announce in local that you are here to be Baptized! Soon you'll find a Knight who tells you how to do it and then you'll be in!

- It's all nice but I don't care. I want ISK without risk and effort. I will AFK mine!
Minion of Hell, by antimatter you will be purged!
Seriously! We will gank you again. You will find that AFK mining has negative ISK/hour: you'll lose more ships than you can AFK-leech ice! Hint: go mine Veld, we can't gank in 1.0-0.9 where the veldspar is. Yet.

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Business Thursday: Income from piracy!

As a New Year Resolution, on every Thursday there will be no ideas or theories, just simple business ideas that you can implement. For today I have two, neither of them is completely safe, they need some pirate blood in your veins to work.

The first is the pirate version of the good old jetcan bot mining. In the original version you run bots with Hulks filling jetcans that you collect. You shouldn't do that, botting is against the EULA. It also leads you to be suicide ganked by the Knights of the New Order. Do the pirate version instead! In this version bots of other people fill jetcans that you 1 day old alt flips. Then your main, fleeted with the alt (or partner) tractor beam the cans into the Orca and fly away with the booty. I managed to "mine" with 150M/hour in Outuni Ice field due to the 100+ botters polluting that place. The flipping mechanic was changed, you can't put anything into hostile cans. But your can take from them to your own jetcan. You need to set the safety to yellow (on the flipper, not the Orca) and others can shoot at you as you are a suspect. Use a cheap frig or noobship with a zero-skill alt. If you can't fly Orca, you can use a standard industrial or a Noctis+Freighter combo.

The second pirate business needs a real pirate partner. I cooperated with the Blood Raiders, the Guristas are just as good, I can't talk about Angels, Serpentis and Sanshas but probably they are cooperative too. Besides having a rich lore and the tendency to kill TEST botters (and sometimes even honest ratters) faster than Pizza could ever do, these wonderful beings have a perk: Drug Manufacturing. No, I don't mean to manufacture them like a real pirate would, I mean the skillbook named "Drug Manufacturing". It's sold by our friends for 20M each. It's sold in Jita for 26. In the other hubs 28-30. So if you are living nearby any of these pirates or dare to venture in their space or have a good wormhole connection then go to their stations, buy their books and haul it to highsec. I made 2-3B every month while being in TEST doing this. I collected the books with a covops frig and hauled to K6 myself where the TEST JF services got these to Amarr or Jita for mere 5% cost (Hi, Dovi and others!) where I could sell them for 25-50% profit. Since I'm no longer in TEST, the business is all yours!

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In yesterday's post I replaced one table with a chart and recognized the importance that there are not just "ganked PvE-ers and PvP-ers", but there are "average" people in the middle. Using this the outcome became much less offensive to WH PvP-ers. While the ruthless hunters are a minority, the average people, who are not "carebears" are in large supply in WHs. Also removed the last table since the CCP data was for accounts and mine for pilots so same-account pilots compromised it.

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Surprising statistics: where are the PvP-ers?

I wrote a post to debunk the commonly recited claim that WH people are both extremely rich and that WH space is extremely dangerous. I used regional statistics from killboards to prove that WH ship losses aren't that expensive. They claimed that because they go to PvP in null (because they are so awesome that no one attacks them in their WHs). So I went to look for more data. Someone who wished to remain anonymous downloaded me 2868915 API verified kills from EVE-kill.net from 2012 (until Dec. 20.) for a nice sum of ISK. Using this data I could track pilots and not places.

I identified 197164 individual pilots who had at least one 50M loss in 2012. I discarded the rest as cyno/scout alts, lost newbies and such. I mean a single 50M+ loss isn't too much to ask if you PvP. Then I classified these pilots into "Highsec", "Lowsec", "Nullsec" and "WH" pilots based on which zone they had the most losses. It's pretty straightforward that you defend your home with more expensive ships than you roam with. Some people might place himself in another group, for example nullsec JF pilots who has most losses in low and highsec, but they are wrong. Such hauler couldn't exist without low- and highsec to haul to. His whole existence is bound to low- and highsec. With the above I found the following amount of pilots who lost ships in PvP

• 18231 WH pilots
• 87353 Nullsec pilots
• 39806 Highsec pilots
• 51774 Lowsec pilots

After that I collected all the losses of these pilots and calculated the average loss/pilot. The chart below shows that, with different colors for the different regions. You can see that while theoretically one can be a WH pilot with only 25.1% losses in WH (and 24.9 in low, high, null), pilots of all zones have vast majority of their losses in their home regions. As you can see, the roaming (and hauling) losses of WH people outside WHs are only 18% of their total losses. For the record: 84% of the total WH kills are done by "WH people" so even if I misidentified some WH-ers because of a highsec hauler loss, their contribution to WH PvP is minimal.

As next move I split the people into 4 groups depending how the number of their kills relate to the average of their own zone. The averages themselves are 7.0 losses/year for WH, 14.6 for Null, 7.1 for High and 11.3 for Lowsec people. Now let's see how the lost ISK is distributed between the four groups: Highsec ISK losses are dominated by those who lost less than half the average amount of ships. They are ganked PvE players and haulers who lost just a few expensive ships. Highsec and lowsec are dominated by lot of smaller losses of active PvP-ers. WH on the other hand seems to be pretty rounded, most losses were of "average" people and the "carebears" and "PvP-ers" are both a minority. Why the amount of losses is important? As you can see, for each type of pilots the average loss values are the highest among those who lost only a few ships, most obviously they got their pimped PvE ship ganked. Please note that it's the value of one loss, the yearly total loss increases with PvP activity (obviously). For this reason the WH-ers lose less money on PvP (first figure) despite their single losses are more expensive.

Now let's look at the loss value pattern! The chart below shows the percentages of various value ranges in the total losses (1x10B is the same as 100x100m). Similar to the previous: the low and nullsec are dominated by smaller losses of the busy PvP population, the medium losses dominate WH and highsec has the largest part of large losses. Freighter ganks beat even the supercapital losses of nullsec!

Finally let's look at how dangerous systems are! While the feeling of danger is subjective, the real danger is very objective: the chance of loss. The chart below show how much ISK was destroyed in a year in an average solar system: Now look at that! Not only the mighty C6s were beaten by highsec systems but the lowsec came out on top by large! Also, C5 and C6 is dominated by expensive losses and we already established it to be a sign of PvE. If we check the number of kills for trivial (0-30M) and non-trivial ship losses in the various system classes, we get the same, lowsec is the most dangerous place to be, while WHs see much less kills than highsec due to their low population. PS: If you can get a more complete database and send me, I gladly analyze that too!

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The reason why I'm at -4 sec status after only 2 days.

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HTFU is a lie

Several communities have nasty language or "pranks": college fraternities, certain forums and several MMO guilds find it normal to call members "niggers", "faggots", refer to PvP as "raping" or "fucking", calling females as "bitches" or "cunts" or even commit nonverbal harassing acts like pushing their heads to toilets or intentional friendly fire in games.

When someone complains, their answer is "HTFU": "harden the fuck up", meaning that one should be a tough guy (like them) and accept this treatment as a form of friendly bonding. They vehemently reject that their behavior is harmful, they claim that they encourage everyone else to threat everyone the same way. They claim to believe in a kind of spartan society where everyone is tough with everyone in order to keep each other in a combat-ready state to smash our enemies when the time comes.

People usually don't follow their advice. Instead of HTFU, they follow one of the two common responses. One is quitting or turning hostile to the organization, this case the person is either considered weak or simply "did not belong here". The other is silent obedience, trying to get out of their sight and hope that after the "necessary" initiation period they find new targets to harass and leave them alone. So the "HTFU" approach remains undisputed and at least the theoretical chance join them as equal due to "harden the fuck up" is believed to be there. To disprove HTFU one has to indeed do as suggested "take the hazing as a man" and still not be accepted.

After joining TEST I started to participate on their forums. I was probably ignorant to many game mechanics and accepted doctrines but hey, it's the alliance that wears "bad at EVE" as a badge, what can go wrong? So I posted what I believed both in comments and in new threads. Soon I started to draw - not criticism and disagreement - but hostile responses. I mean they did not even try to offer arguments just some "funny" picture or the kind suggestion to "shut the fuck up", maybe with some labels like "publord", "shitlord" and "faggot" or the legendary "kill yourself".

This was the time when the theoretical advice of "HTFU" was put to the test. No, not purposefully, I did not see the importance of that. I am simply naturally immune to social effects and considered them random idiots. After all 20K people were allowed to post on those forums (TEST and blues), so having a few dozen drunkens, braindeads and trolls is normal. However as time went on, this behavior just worsened. At first they responded this way only to things they disagreed with, later they dug out every post I made, even totally technical ones and started their own ones for no other reason than express their hate. Yet, I kept posting without minding them. I did not throw them insulting replies, just ignored them and kept posting whatever was on my mind. By then I was already labeled the worst/best troll TEST ever had despite you wouldn't find my post trolling. I mean how much trolling lies in the question "Do you know who is Cha Ching PLC?" (a non-blue alliance living in near proximity). Please note that I just said you would find my posts technical, on-topic and non-trolling, I did not say that I was unaware that this harmless-looking question will indeed infuriate them, nor that I did not wish it.

This went on until the point I post my findings about TEST culture here on the blog. I wrote that they are effective because their automatic and bureaucratic system distances the simple member from the obnoxious and bossy people polluting every social space. They were celebrating in a 100+ comment thread. What did they celebrate? That I finally quit. That I was weak like the others. They even gave me a special in-game title "paid 60b to get trolled out of TEST and probably EVE". When I clarified that I never intended to quit, merely expected to be kicked over calling the small-corp leaderships useless, they were very upset.

The "shut the fuck up publord" one-liners, "kill yourself" comments and other niceties became much-more frequent than before, but still with no effect. OK, that's not exactly true, I started to look at them as forum tears and started to word my posts in a way to harvest maximum amount of those. I started to brag about my downvote status. I was the living example of "HTFU", the guy who isn't simply remain unbroken by "friendly pushings" but actively participate in these "acts of spartan friendship".

However the "HTFU" guys were not so happy. Besides becoming less and less original, they started to demand me to change my destructive behavior and inform me that I'm offensive and harmful. My favorite topic was the one where I suggested to use the existing stratops-announcer so people can participate. This topic was probably my only with net positive votes: it was so popular that my hating "fanbase" couldn't cast enough downvotes. Here they explicitly told that while the idea itself is good, I introduced it in an insensitive way that could cause the people feel that "I'm talking down to them" or "consider myself smarter than them". The same people accused me insensitivity who wrote "kill yourself faggot" half an hour ago! When I replied with "HTFU", they weren't happy at all. It seems they find their own medicine bitter!

This went on for a few more weeks: I posted something that an outsider would consider technical and on-topic (maybe ignorant but still harmless), they spammed insults in a more and more desperate way. These people had a status within the alliance and by openly ignoring their bully I questioned that. Even the most harmless technical post of mine was a "the king is naked" exclamation. I wasn't among the cool kids who were allowed to speak and yet I did! As a new color the fan-of-fan emerged, these posters did not support me but expressed amusement on the misery of my "fans" with comments like "You couldn't silence Gevlon by writing "shut the fuck up publord" 1000x, and now you hope that the 1001.th will work?" Forum moderators wrote "hahaha, you can't imagine how many idiots report Gevlon as offensive instead of just ignoring him".

Finally, when no less man then Montolio, the alliance leader realized that there is no amount of insults and hateposts can make me ragequit or even scale down posting (actually it made me scale up), I was kicked.

So no, HTFU isn't even a theoretical chance. Being insulting, racist, sexist isn't a form of bonding. It's an offensive act that is aimed to force someone into obedience or to display power. "HTFU" is merely a form of damage control, it's a lie claiming that their behavior is OK. They know it's not OK and if anyone else does it to them, they aren't happy. If you refuse to be bullied into obedience or ragequit, they won't accept you as an equal as they promised but try to bully you harder and if that fails they quit defeated. By kicking me Montolio protected his staff that pays their privilege to be assholes by slave-work. If he didn't kick me, this collection of obnoxious idiots would have ragequit over their inability to make me ragequit. He couldn't afford them ragequit as someone has to process the reimbursement forms, fuel the towers and welp fleets faster than self-destruct or the alliance stops functioning.

If you see "friendly pushing" like that, you can do two things only. One is flying under the radar, disappearing from their eyes. TEST is a perfect place for that due to its size. If you don't speak on the forum or in fleet chat, they will never notice you. The other is quiting. You can't make them accept you as equal (not to mention why do you want to be an equal to someone who calls people "nigger faggots").

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First gank

I've ran a strange course in EVE. People usually have their first kill on a highsec target before on a supercarrier. And people usually kill something before they get 9 months old. Anyway, better late then never, an AFK-leeching Retreiver died:
Yes, I know I suck, this was the first and the ganker alt it just 1 days old. More will come! Do you remember Alterac Valley where half of your team was AFK-leech or bot? Here in EVE you can inflict them damage that cost as much as several weeks of game subscription! Unlike taking systems on the Sov map, it's pretty newbie friendly. Come and try it. Death to all the bots!

By the way one of the botgankers made this video how it happens!

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Dead morons of the week

• MasL is back! Famous for his 20B Machariel losses, he is on the quest to lose "unorthodox-fit" expensive ships. I can't even imagine what this wanted to be, but it clearly didn't work.
• This one doesn't look like a (big) moron after his fitting. The fun part is his 4B cargo that includes a deadspace invulnerablity field while he has T2 fitted. Hint: they don't work unfitted!
• This armor and shield tanked 6B cloaky hauler didn't work either
• So you cynoed you JF to the docking ring of a lowsec system neighboring highsec and packed everything into the normal freighter. So far so good. Then you undock the freighter, insta-warp it away from the station and land on the gate. You can't really lose it. One of the steps was missing here. By the way if he didn't fail the lowsec part, he could still lose it in highsec because 6B cargo is usually suicide ganked.
• I can't stop being amused on badly tanked bling Moroses with 73% damage taken from rats.
• 16B freighter under wardec. I'm struggling with figuring out how could this creature get 16B.
• 6B cloaky hauler with only cargohold expanders in Jita where the normal traffic decloaks it.
• Standard, boring 7B freigher in Niarja
• Wardecced JF in highsec.
• While the kill value is overestimated (it's about 5B), having 5B in an untanked T1 industrial needs a special kind of stupid.
• 5B, zero buffer ratting Tengu in Jita.
• Untanked normal hauler carrying a Guardian-Vexor, a rare ship. Loss value is over the price of a titan.
• 9B zero buffer ratting Nightmare

They say that EVE forces stupid to learn or leave. Well, it seems there is lot of work to be done left.

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